Pac-12 Basketball Tournament And Las Vegas: New Arena On The Way?
Pac-12 basketball is something that generates a lot of apathy from the masses these days, because, well, it's simply not all that fun to talk about. Maybe one or two teams will be tournament-bound, while the rest end up in consolation brackets or stuck in perpetual rebuilding.
Usually you'd think the final event would be something to take notice of, but the venue just makes you go meh. The Pac-12 and many of its fans are tired of Staples Center and empty arenas that make you think you got lost and ended up at Galen. Many conference members want to make a change, and the Pac-12 seems willing to make a move as well.
Vegas seems to be actively discussed as a future site for the conference to host the tournament, and it's an exciting thing to think about. Vegas has the central location similar to Los Angeles that would work for the Pac-12, but doesn't suffer from the same issues that plague the LA. There are few traffic and logistical issues in Vegas, with only one central site where most people will stay. (Whereas most people who visit LA do not spend their time in downtown LA, particularly for the long stretch of time that the Pac-12 Tournament demands). It would also eliminate the numerous gripes many people have about the tourney being in a site that clearly favors the hometown USC Trojans and UCLA Bruins, and would be as neutral a site. And it's far easier to coax people to spend a week in Vegas than in LA, plus more convenient to make an impromptu trip planned only a week or so in advance.
The only question is where to play the games? MGM Garden Arena seems to be discussed as the potential site if a move was to be made in the next year or two, but it's clearly an untenable spot long-term, as the arena lacks the amenities or luxury suites to be a successful site financially long-term. Ditto Thomas and Mack Center (a nice enough arena, but still an old one) and Orleans Arena (too small). There needs to be a central site.
So this news seems convenient.
Chinese banking concerns agree to finance $650 million for 17,500 sports arena in Las Vegas.
— Steve Carp (@stevecarprj) February 13, 2012
Deal for Vegas arena is with International Development Management and Smart Cities International. Construction starts mid-year and done 2014
— Steve Carp (@stevecarprj) February 13, 2012
@TwoPieceBoxing In Henderson near the M Hotel and Casino off I-15 at the very south end of town.
— Steve Carp (@stevecarprj) February 13, 2012
There you go. With a big-time arena in Vegas and plenty of capable transport between the Strip and the new location, you have your new central site to play the premier postseason event of the Pac-12. And it should sell pretty well in Vegas compared to Los Angeles. Move to MGM for a year or two before switching to the new state-of-the-art facility a year or two down the road.
It seems the conference is on the point of making their decision, and Vegas has to be sitting pretty good.
(It might seem coincidental, but with Scott and China both also inter-mingling, do you wonder how much of a hand he had to play in getting some investors from this country to take a look at one of the major tourism destinations of the world to suit his purposes? I wouldn't put it past him.)
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This suggests of collaborative efforts that could benefit multiple parties,
the Pac-12 included.
The MGM does seem to be suitable for the women’s tournament, and there are legitimate logistical reasons for keeping it in the same town as the men’s tournament. The women’s tournament is not and will not be the major event the men’s tournament could be, and won’t be high on many (most?) peoples’ radar. But the Pac does not want it to be a detriment either, especially come the Pac-12 Networks. A “win for all solution” certainly appears to be a possibility.
It’s the kind of forward thinking I generally like from Larry Scott.
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Personally, this would make me a bigger basketball fan
I’d make this an annual trip.
me too
though I am already in LA and a fair weather basketball fan.
by Utah-UCLA alum on Feb 14, 2012 12:52 PM PST up reply actions
As far as I am concerned,
the #1 seed should host the tournament—so if the season ended today, Cal would host the men’s tournament and Stanfurd would host the women’s tournament.
I have never been a fan of “neutral sites” and I never will. I thank goodness that the football championship game is a home game for the team with the best record . . .
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There's no way that works without major tweaks
We have Pac-12 games 3 days before the tourney starts and the #1 seed likely won’t be determined until then this year. Would Cal, UW and Arizona all have plans in place to host the tourney? And would fans from out of town ever go?
by Oski4Heisman on Feb 14, 2012 5:34 PM PST up reply actions
Then I think there should be some major tweaks. Personally, I hate the idea of the Pac-12 tournament . . . the regular season champion should just get the automatic bid. If there HAS to be a tournament, then the regular season champion should have as much of an advantage as humanely possible.
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The location being discussed is NOT anywhere near the Strip
At least not the one that people are used to talking about and traversing by foot (or double-decker bus). In fact, the M and South Henderson are waaaaay out of the way from the more traditional touristy places of LV.
While I have no doubt that public transportation would service a new arena, for people who decide to drive/rent a car, getting from Henderson to the “Welcome to Las Vegas” sign is easy cheesy. Getting from the sign to Tropicana is alright as well. Traveling in any direction from Tropicana to Fremont, whether on I-15 or the Strip, is a nightmare, and in some ways, worse than the 405 during rush hour. Add in that the M is a four-star hotel and you have a recipe for a lot of angry fans traveling from the hotels on the South Strip to Henderson, especially on nights when MGM or Caesar’s host events.
If the original Fremont Sportsplex had been backed, that would have been cool and easily accessible. As it is, the project was downsized, it sounds like, and moved to a more “out-of-the-way” location because of politics. But hey, four miles from the South Strip is better than the 260 from LA, I suppose.
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I won't believe
this until I see it. UNLV has been trying for a LONG time trying to get a new football and or basketball arena. Something also gets in the way to hold up construction.
Even if it gets built
I don’t see Larry Scott hopping on with an arena 10 miles from the heart of the strip.
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by Ryan Rosenblatt on Feb 15, 2012 3:00 PM PST reply actions

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